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> Rating for non anticheat protected servers, Rating für nicht Anticheat geschützte Server
Rating for unprotected Servers
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Hellfiger
post Jun 6 2012, 11:32 AM
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Hi,
I'm cTRL-exeve.
I've been playing this game for years and years now.
Because of Splatterladder it made me play this came for so long.
BUT then came Trackbase.net.... For me you guys have to compete with them. And they are doing a much more better job.
Why?
For starter, they let you rate on non-protected servers. You guys base yourself on an outdated anti-cheat program that dropped ET like it was a germ.
You guys are loosing visitors and members because you REFUSE to activate rate on those kind of servers.
They also have another kind of rate system. Yours is based pure on xp. No skill in cvopsing 30 suits/map. getting huge much xp => alot of rate as well. While real skilled people try to get rate pure on kills (but I guess this will be getting in discussing which is 'the best' way to rate).

Of course you'll have to look carefull which server is full of cheaters, and which aren't.
You can easily excluded those server from your tracking list.

To make it short: If you don't activate rate on all kind of servers (or just not those with server password protection, since those are common used to play a war (scrim)), you guys will fall behind even further from trackbase, and you will lose even more members, credibility and activity.
You have to admit, that your community is getting smaller since Trackbase came out...

Anyway: I know you won't like what i just said here. But it is the truth.


GL with this site.
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schnoog
post Jun 6 2012, 11:59 AM
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While real skilled people try to get rate pure on kills

At this point we differ. This is ET, not CS. Its not a pure FPS, it`s about completing an objective and much more.
Therefore I don`t see the benefit of rewarding pure killers instead of the, IMO, better solution the XP system offers.

But we`re working, based on the SL user votes, on a solution to enable rating for non protected server, but not a 1:1 rating compared to AC protected server.

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You guys are loosing visitors and members because you REFUSE to activate rate on those kind of servers.

Our visitor count is increasing since months (+22% compared to december 11, +13% compared to january 12).
>30 % of the votes declined a rating for non protected server (just for your information).

Thanks for your feedback, it`s allways welcome

Kind regards
Schnoog


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{WeB}*DoG
post Jun 6 2012, 03:59 PM
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Trackbase whilst new is not so hot on their responses 5 months ago we requested that our server be added to their list of servers and to this date we have had no response... Trackbase may have an updated look but Splatterladder is the father of et tracking and it has always striven to eliminate cheats... i can completely understand why they are taking a considered view on allowing non pb servers to be tracked. we all agree that PB has shafted the longterm et player but in its absence you have to be careful who is rated cos there are still plenty of cheats out there.. As a server admin for our own clan we try our utmost to eliminate anyone found using cheats or hacks If we police our servers then maybe further down the line we will be allowed to get a rating but quite frankly the rating is not why i or most of my clanmates play. motz.gif

The only mandate we make for anyone coming on our server is that you must TK Gang$ta often abuse him at any opportunity.... grin.gif grin.gif grin.gif grin.gif grin.gif grin.gif 01lol.gif


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TomDome
post Jun 6 2012, 04:52 PM
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Right Dog bro, but you forgot to point out that stabbing Gang$ta from behind is all he needs in game rolleye.gif

back to topic:
We will announce a news about the decission we came to. Maybe tomorrow, maybe on friday. Then all interested will know what we do.


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Wolf Enstein
post Jun 6 2012, 04:52 PM
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QUOTE (Hellfiger @ Jun 6 2012, 01:32 PM) *
BUT then came Trackbase.net.... For me you guys have to compete with them.


Why? Splatterladder has nothing to prove to anyone when it comes to it's record in providing an excellent service to all Wolf:ET players. SL has been here since the start of Wolf:ET and is one of the main websites that can claim credit for the growth and development of our game, along with other websites such as Wolffiles and Splash Damage.

QUOTE (Hellfiger @ Jun 6 2012, 01:32 PM) *
And they are doing a much more better job.
Why?
For starter, they let you rate on non-protected servers.


And what exactly do you think this thread is all about, Hellfiger? Splatterladder implementing the same type of rating, perhaps?

QUOTE (Hellfiger @ Jun 6 2012, 01:32 PM) *
You guys are loosing visitors and members because you REFUSE to activate rate on those kind of servers.
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Refuse? Once again, Hellfiger, what part of "Rating for non anticheat protected servers" can't you grasp? The clue is in the title of this thread. And as for losing visitors, Schnoog just shot down that myth in his reply to you. The vetran players of Wolf:ET are, quite frankly, sick and tired of all this "Splatterladder is dead" crap. It's a lie based on the wishful thinking of a sad, bigotted minority who have the IQ of a house brick.

QUOTE (Hellfiger @ Jun 6 2012, 01:32 PM) *
They also have another kind of rate system.


That'll be the same rating system that went "tits-up" as soon as the implemented it, right? Like DOG said in his post, we're still waiting for a reply on that subject.


QUOTE (Hellfiger @ Jun 6 2012, 01:32 PM) *
While real skilled people try to get rate pure on kills........


No. Rambo Medic scumbags try to obtain a rating in that manner and in doing so drive many new players away from our game. They have no sense of teamplay, objectives and are nothing more than selfish stat-whores at best.


QUOTE (Hellfiger @ Jun 6 2012, 01:32 PM) *
you will lose even more members, credibility and activity.You have to admit, that your community is getting smaller since Trackbase came out...


Credibility is something that Splatterladder has by the "truck load", proving itself to be one of the top Wolfenstein Enemy Territory websites ever created and doing so year after year. As far as I'm concerned you just posted your comment to start trouble between SL and Trackbase members, Hellfiger. Did you even vote in the poll? I doubt it. I like Trackbase, my Clan are members there too and guys like Shagileo are top class and great fun to frag with.

Anyway: I know you won't like what i just said here, Hellfiger. But it is the truth.


GL with your wrong opinion.



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TomDome
post Jun 6 2012, 05:06 PM
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Hey G-Man bro,

thanks for a load of credit to sl. We will announce within 1 or 2 days i guess what we do with non protected servers.

The alternative rating method Paul implemented is a good try to get away from the xp base - but this is all what the server is sending - thats how ET was created.
Connecting a client every 5 seconds to a server (only if Paul approves the server to be allowed to use this method, what means also a long map playtime or the session wont be rated) to query some data isnt a way i would favourite but thats in every serveradmins own decission what he or she prefers.
XP based rating can always be tricked by earning huge xp amounts. To cap this we use a max session value, if you earn more xp - you are not rated. Paul copied this and just added a higher value max, what is the reason you can rate higher on tb than on sl. You could set this value max always a bit higher, but what is the result? Imo the result is that you can trick more with a higher max value, because you get rated a longer time before the cap cuts you out.

But this thread shall not become a thread about i like this more or i like that more. Its a thread where the users of splatterladder can take a voice about enabling rating or not.

Thanks for reading.


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kariboe
post Jun 6 2012, 06:36 PM
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I have only one thing to say:

SL is better than trackbase.


That's all ditsch.gif
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[DooC]*Gauki
post Jun 6 2012, 10:25 PM
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i use both, sl. and tb. :) splatterladder is the reason why i playing this game so long :P in my opinion i think sl. is better couse of the server history and the xp based rating ! and tb. is better couze of rating on non pb server rating :P but i dont play 4 rating at the moment grin.gif i prefer to watch whats happen on server and how long someone play rolleye.gif
keep you work up, i will stay on sl. anyway :P haha

<---- edit1: my member number in sl.tells all :P

This post has been edited by [DooC]*Gauki: Jun 6 2012, 10:26 PM


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